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		<title>By: Alexander Baron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexander Baron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After recent events in Washington I can see public support for your favourite cop killer plunging to zero. Sad it should take something like that to bring it about though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After recent events in Washington I can see public support for your favourite cop killer plunging to zero. Sad it should take something like that to bring it about though.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander Baron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexander Baron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re Abu-Jamal, check out 

http://video.tiscali.it/canali/truveo/5565451.html

http://majorityrights.com/index.php/weblog/comments/mumia_murder_michael_stone_theory_practice_consequences_blanket_dismissal/

http://www.archive.org/details/ATaleOfTwoConvictedCopKillers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re Abu-Jamal, check out </p>
<p><a href="http://video.tiscali.it/canali/truveo/5565451.html" rel="nofollow">http://video.tiscali.it/canali/truveo/5565451.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://majorityrights.com/index.php/weblog/comments/mumia_murder_michael_stone_theory_practice_consequences_blanket_dismissal/" rel="nofollow">http://majorityrights.com/index.php/weblog/comments/mumia_murder_michael_stone_theory_practice_consequences_blanket_dismissal/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.archive.org/details/ATaleOfTwoConvictedCopKillers" rel="nofollow">http://www.archive.org/details/ATaleOfTwoConvictedCopKillers</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jon Pisano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Pisano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean, that is a pretty blanket statement and it shows your limited knowledge of this situation. Officer Forbes and Shoemaker, who arrested the murderer Mumia Abu Jamal within 30 seconds after he murdered Officer Faulkner were members, as I, Of the Phila Police Stakeout Unit (SWAT) and were neither corrupt or &quot;renegades&quot; but dedicated Officers apprehending a vicious murderer. As to &quot;officer Giordano&quot; he was an Inspector  in night Command of Central Division that fateful night and was not &quot;head&quot; of Mumia&#039;s case.

As to Giordano being arrested and losing his job...good but to make a blanket statement as in your post shows...what?

Jon Pisano
Justice for Officer Faulkner</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean, that is a pretty blanket statement and it shows your limited knowledge of this situation. Officer Forbes and Shoemaker, who arrested the murderer Mumia Abu Jamal within 30 seconds after he murdered Officer Faulkner were members, as I, Of the Phila Police Stakeout Unit (SWAT) and were neither corrupt or &#8220;renegades&#8221; but dedicated Officers apprehending a vicious murderer. As to &#8220;officer Giordano&#8221; he was an Inspector  in night Command of Central Division that fateful night and was not &#8220;head&#8221; of Mumia&#8217;s case.</p>
<p>As to Giordano being arrested and losing his job&#8230;good but to make a blanket statement as in your post shows&#8230;what?</p>
<p>Jon Pisano<br />
Justice for Officer Faulkner</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander Baron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexander Baron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I said in my dissertation on blanket dismissal, the only problem with this sort of twisted logic is that taken to its logical extreme you can never convict anybody of anything. Period. How about you start by explaining that Charter Arms revolver? Or why neither your hero nor his brother said anything about a phantom hitman, Arnold Beverly, or was it Ken Freeman, or was it some guy with &quot;Johnny Mathis hair&quot; until two decades after the deed was done.

Get real, save your misplaced idealism for someone who deserves it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I said in my dissertation on blanket dismissal, the only problem with this sort of twisted logic is that taken to its logical extreme you can never convict anybody of anything. Period. How about you start by explaining that Charter Arms revolver? Or why neither your hero nor his brother said anything about a phantom hitman, Arnold Beverly, or was it Ken Freeman, or was it some guy with &#8220;Johnny Mathis hair&#8221; until two decades after the deed was done.</p>
<p>Get real, save your misplaced idealism for someone who deserves it.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean O'Neill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean O'Neill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How can the World possibly believe the word of corrupt cops? As called by themselves, &quot;Rizzo&#039;s Renegades&quot; did whatever they wanted and several, including the head of Mumia&#039;s case - Officer Giordano = were thrown off the force by the FBI.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can the World possibly believe the word of corrupt cops? As called by themselves, &#8220;Rizzo&#8217;s Renegades&#8221; did whatever they wanted and several, including the head of Mumia&#8217;s case &#8211; Officer Giordano = were thrown off the force by the FBI.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander Baron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexander Baron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason the cops didn&#039;t itemise every single scrap of evidence against your hero is because they didn&#039;t imagine in their wildest dreams that he would ever deny shooting Faulkner. And he didn&#039;t actually do that until 2001, did he?

How much evidence do you need to convict a man of murder? If this had been a black cop shot by a white fanatic we wouldn&#039;t be having this conversation. If Faulkner had been black too we wouldn&#039;t be having it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason the cops didn&#8217;t itemise every single scrap of evidence against your hero is because they didn&#8217;t imagine in their wildest dreams that he would ever deny shooting Faulkner. And he didn&#8217;t actually do that until 2001, did he?</p>
<p>How much evidence do you need to convict a man of murder? If this had been a black cop shot by a white fanatic we wouldn&#8217;t be having this conversation. If Faulkner had been black too we wouldn&#8217;t be having it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Pisano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Pisano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, who is confused Michael? You feed on misreprensations and a lot of &quot;what if&#039;s&quot; but facts mean nothing to you or your bogus &quot;journalists&quot; murderer support site. As I stated before, jamal will die in prison with or without the help of the State, and rightfully so.

Jon Pisano
Justice for Officer Daniel Faulkner</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, who is confused Michael? You feed on misreprensations and a lot of &#8220;what if&#8217;s&#8221; but facts mean nothing to you or your bogus &#8220;journalists&#8221; murderer support site. As I stated before, jamal will die in prison with or without the help of the State, and rightfully so.</p>
<p>Jon Pisano<br />
Justice for Officer Daniel Faulkner</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Schiffmann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Schiffmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good luck, Jon, in selling this confused blather to others. You can&#039;t keep a straight line even if it&#039;s drawn for you, so I&#039;ll simply stop here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good luck, Jon, in selling this confused blather to others. You can&#8217;t keep a straight line even if it&#8217;s drawn for you, so I&#8217;ll simply stop here.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Pisano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Pisano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael, Michael...what are we gonna do with you. Jamal&#039;s gun was recovered by the arresting Officers 30 to 45 SECONDS after Jamal killed Officer Faulkner. The guns, Faulkners and Jamals were handled in the PROPER manner by Officer Forbes. It appears you and your jamal site support statements given after 20 years but find fault with statements by the Officers/ security time lines. As to the statement &quot; the negro male made no comment, you KNOW that was AFTER Jamals blurted statement at the Hosp. entrance. The recorded &quot;no comment&quot; statement was when the defendant and his Police guard were in the ER treatment room awaiting the Doctor. You and your web site post your BS but the Justice system in the UNITED STATES, both State and Federal, have ruled Jamal did in FACT , without ANY proven discrimination, received a fair trial and ALL of the Courts AFFIRMED his guilt...the murder of another human being. Blow smoke and sell books Michael..there is at least ONE &quot;journalist&quot; who you can lead by the nose and his latest quest is a Civil Rights investigation of Jamal&#039;s rights. Fools led by fooled fools.

Jon Pisano
Justice for Officer Daniel Faulkner</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael, Michael&#8230;what are we gonna do with you. Jamal&#8217;s gun was recovered by the arresting Officers 30 to 45 SECONDS after Jamal killed Officer Faulkner. The guns, Faulkners and Jamals were handled in the PROPER manner by Officer Forbes. It appears you and your jamal site support statements given after 20 years but find fault with statements by the Officers/ security time lines. As to the statement &#8221; the negro male made no comment, you KNOW that was AFTER Jamals blurted statement at the Hosp. entrance. The recorded &#8220;no comment&#8221; statement was when the defendant and his Police guard were in the ER treatment room awaiting the Doctor. You and your web site post your BS but the Justice system in the UNITED STATES, both State and Federal, have ruled Jamal did in FACT , without ANY proven discrimination, received a fair trial and ALL of the Courts AFFIRMED his guilt&#8230;the murder of another human being. Blow smoke and sell books Michael..there is at least ONE &#8220;journalist&#8221; who you can lead by the nose and his latest quest is a Civil Rights investigation of Jamal&#8217;s rights. Fools led by fooled fools.</p>
<p>Jon Pisano<br />
Justice for Officer Daniel Faulkner</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Schiffmann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Schiffmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alexander Baron, 


Good that you don&#039;t say such a thing, even though on the website you&#039;re advertizing lot of links can be found like &quot;judenfrei,&quot; &quot;Jewish deception&quot; etc.

No one claims that no Black man ever received a fair trial in the U.S. But the chance of an African American to receive one is significantly lower than for a Caucasian.

Why was the likelihood for a potential Black juror to be kicked out by the prosecutor ten times higher than for a White juror at Abu-Jamal&#039;s trial? Just one point.

In the training video for to-be prosecutors, keeping intelligent and critical people who might take the slogan about a fair trial seriously off the jury is not the only point.

You &quot;don&#039;t want Blacks from 33th and Diamond&quot; is another, keeping meticulous record about Blacks and Whites still left in the jury pool a third.

Intelligent people, Black people, poor people are all to be excluded. For a person such as Mumia Abu-Jamal, wonderful conditions to get a jury of his peers.

&quot;I’m glad... If you let me go, I&#039;ll kill all you cops&quot; is a quote from a cop who never testified at the trial. Perhaps because the first time he reported this alleged boast by Abu-Jamal was March 1, 1982, almost three months after the shooting death of Faulkner.

Did this guy, Thomas M. Bray, also forget to report the incriminating boast because he thought it was not important?

Like his colleagues Gary Wakshul (February 11, 1982) and Gary Bell (February 25, 1982)?

Why did both officers assigned to guard Abu-Jamal, Gary Wakshul and Stephen Trombetta, write in their reports immediately after the shooting that Abu-Jamal said nothing?

Why did hospital security guard James LeGrand wait until February 9, 1982 to contact the police, or in fact anyone about Abu-Jamal&#039;s alleged boast?

Or to take the one witnesses to the boast even worthy of discussion, hospital guard Priscilla Durham: Why did she, too, wait until February 9, 1982 to go to the police?

And if she indeed, as claimed, reported Abu-Jamal&#039;s boast to her superior at the hospital, why didn&#039;t HE immediately report this to the police or the press?

Six people who are in the know, five of them as direct earwitnesses, and none of them gets excited enough to talk to the press, to talk to anyone else, and in particular, to report this to the police? Three of them police officers, two of the security guards, and one of them the superior of the security guards in the hospital where a cop just died from gunshot wounds inflicted by the suspect in question?

If you really have the stomach to believe this, god bless you. But given what you write elsewhere, you seem to think anyway that a fair amount of lying on the part of the prosecution or their witnesses is quite normal in trials and no reason to overturn the result.

Be glad you are not the one in the dock.

The five questions I posed to Jon Pisano of course remain unanswered, by him, you, or anyone else. Perhaps because there is no sensible answer that would support Abu-Jamal&#039;s guilt.

BTW, the Charter Arms was not alleged to have been at Abu-Jamal&#039;s feet but to his left side, and allegedly he reached for it before the arriving cops maltreated him. Given the way they handled the gun &amp; then lied about this in court, the question is in order whether they really found next to Abu-Jamal or whether it was still in its holster.

It&#039;s not enough to resort to name-calling and accuse opponents summarily of &quot;lies.&quot; Where, please, did I, or Hans for that matter, lie?

An informed public will finally force the courts and the criminal justice system to let the whole truth come out, and that&#039;s what Journalists for Mumia are working for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alexander Baron, </p>
<p>Good that you don&#8217;t say such a thing, even though on the website you&#8217;re advertizing lot of links can be found like &#8220;judenfrei,&#8221; &#8220;Jewish deception&#8221; etc.</p>
<p>No one claims that no Black man ever received a fair trial in the U.S. But the chance of an African American to receive one is significantly lower than for a Caucasian.</p>
<p>Why was the likelihood for a potential Black juror to be kicked out by the prosecutor ten times higher than for a White juror at Abu-Jamal&#8217;s trial? Just one point.</p>
<p>In the training video for to-be prosecutors, keeping intelligent and critical people who might take the slogan about a fair trial seriously off the jury is not the only point.</p>
<p>You &#8220;don&#8217;t want Blacks from 33th and Diamond&#8221; is another, keeping meticulous record about Blacks and Whites still left in the jury pool a third.</p>
<p>Intelligent people, Black people, poor people are all to be excluded. For a person such as Mumia Abu-Jamal, wonderful conditions to get a jury of his peers.</p>
<p>&#8220;I’m glad&#8230; If you let me go, I&#8217;ll kill all you cops&#8221; is a quote from a cop who never testified at the trial. Perhaps because the first time he reported this alleged boast by Abu-Jamal was March 1, 1982, almost three months after the shooting death of Faulkner.</p>
<p>Did this guy, Thomas M. Bray, also forget to report the incriminating boast because he thought it was not important?</p>
<p>Like his colleagues Gary Wakshul (February 11, 1982) and Gary Bell (February 25, 1982)?</p>
<p>Why did both officers assigned to guard Abu-Jamal, Gary Wakshul and Stephen Trombetta, write in their reports immediately after the shooting that Abu-Jamal said nothing?</p>
<p>Why did hospital security guard James LeGrand wait until February 9, 1982 to contact the police, or in fact anyone about Abu-Jamal&#8217;s alleged boast?</p>
<p>Or to take the one witnesses to the boast even worthy of discussion, hospital guard Priscilla Durham: Why did she, too, wait until February 9, 1982 to go to the police?</p>
<p>And if she indeed, as claimed, reported Abu-Jamal&#8217;s boast to her superior at the hospital, why didn&#8217;t HE immediately report this to the police or the press?</p>
<p>Six people who are in the know, five of them as direct earwitnesses, and none of them gets excited enough to talk to the press, to talk to anyone else, and in particular, to report this to the police? Three of them police officers, two of the security guards, and one of them the superior of the security guards in the hospital where a cop just died from gunshot wounds inflicted by the suspect in question?</p>
<p>If you really have the stomach to believe this, god bless you. But given what you write elsewhere, you seem to think anyway that a fair amount of lying on the part of the prosecution or their witnesses is quite normal in trials and no reason to overturn the result.</p>
<p>Be glad you are not the one in the dock.</p>
<p>The five questions I posed to Jon Pisano of course remain unanswered, by him, you, or anyone else. Perhaps because there is no sensible answer that would support Abu-Jamal&#8217;s guilt.</p>
<p>BTW, the Charter Arms was not alleged to have been at Abu-Jamal&#8217;s feet but to his left side, and allegedly he reached for it before the arriving cops maltreated him. Given the way they handled the gun &amp; then lied about this in court, the question is in order whether they really found next to Abu-Jamal or whether it was still in its holster.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not enough to resort to name-calling and accuse opponents summarily of &#8220;lies.&#8221; Where, please, did I, or Hans for that matter, lie?</p>
<p>An informed public will finally force the courts and the criminal justice system to let the whole truth come out, and that&#8217;s what Journalists for Mumia are working for.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander Baron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexander Baron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never said any such thing; I&#039;m saying if it was possible for a Jew to get a fair trial in Nazi Germany - and be acquitted - it is certainly possible for a black man to get a fair trial in the United States. Jamal&#039;s problem is not that he didn&#039;t get a fair trial but that he did. Or have you forgotten the Charter Arms revolver at his feet - registered in his name, the bullet from Officer Faulkner&#039;s gun in his chest, and his boast - not confession, boast when he thought he was going to die himself - that he had shot Faulkner, adding &quot;I&#039;m glad...If you let me go, I&#039;ll kill all you cops&quot;.

http://majorityrights.com/index.php/weblog/comments/mumia_murder_michael_stone_theory_practice_consequences_blanket_dismissal/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never said any such thing; I&#8217;m saying if it was possible for a Jew to get a fair trial in Nazi Germany &#8211; and be acquitted &#8211; it is certainly possible for a black man to get a fair trial in the United States. Jamal&#8217;s problem is not that he didn&#8217;t get a fair trial but that he did. Or have you forgotten the Charter Arms revolver at his feet &#8211; registered in his name, the bullet from Officer Faulkner&#8217;s gun in his chest, and his boast &#8211; not confession, boast when he thought he was going to die himself &#8211; that he had shot Faulkner, adding &#8220;I&#8217;m glad&#8230;If you let me go, I&#8217;ll kill all you cops&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Schiffmann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Schiffmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bowman: Yo, indeed I mistook you for one with whom at least a semi-conversation was possible. What a fool I was, acting against my own former advice to Hans Bennett.

Alexander Baron: Very similar. Even in the 1930s, Jews won some court cases in Germany. Which should prove there was no anti-Semitism in the Germany and the country&#039;s courts, and probably no Holocaust also.

A revoir, you guys. This is getting to insane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bowman: Yo, indeed I mistook you for one with whom at least a semi-conversation was possible. What a fool I was, acting against my own former advice to Hans Bennett.</p>
<p>Alexander Baron: Very similar. Even in the 1930s, Jews won some court cases in Germany. Which should prove there was no anti-Semitism in the Germany and the country&#8217;s courts, and probably no Holocaust also.</p>
<p>A revoir, you guys. This is getting to insane.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Schiffmann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Schiffmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon,

I&#039;m not committed to this affidavit in any way. Therefore, I also don&#039;t write that Abu-Jamal ran to his brother&#039;s &quot;screams.&quot; All of this plays no role whatsoever in what I&#039;ve written on the topic for the past three years (some of the stuff I wrote earlier and in German is indeed open to various kinds of criticism, but I guess you don&#039;t even know these writings).

To repeat, I&#039;m not committed to this, that, or any other affidavit.

I&#039;m simply quoting from your alleged Bible, the trial transcripts.

And according to them, Abu-Jamal was parked on 13th Stree, not the parking lot, period.

And according to them, and to the testimony of prosecution witness Albert Magilton there, Abu-Jamal&#039;s brother Billy Cook was driving on Locust before crossing the intersection 13th and Locust, not (and specifically, not the wrong way) on 13th.

And according to the trial transcripts, if one wants to believe the explicit statements of both Albert Magilton and key prosecution witness Michael Scanlan, there was no cab parked behind Daniel Faulkner&#039;s police car.

So one other key prosecution witness, cab driver Robert Chobert, claiming he had parked behind a police car that had its dome lights on even though he was out on probation and was driving without a license, was not even there, all according to weighty testimony to be found in the trial transcripts.

And so on.

But as I said, to argue with you is useless, even if my arguments are strictly based on what you proclaim to be your Bible. You&#039;ll continue to sidestep whatever I say.

I you want to argue with my or Hans&#039;s points, you have to address what we say, not with what someone else, and be it Abu-Jamal himself, has said.

But you can&#039;t respond, and so you choose to sidetrack the issues.

Five straight questions to you, John:

* If the three prosecution witnesses were right and Abu-Jamal fired at Faulkner several times at point blank range, meaning he also missed several times minus one - where are the bullets? How is it that the police that allegedly was told about this way everything allegedly unfolded did not even look for these bullets?

* How is it that prosecution witnesses Albert Magilton and Mike Scanlan explicitly denied that a taxi cab, or indeed any car, was standing behind Faulkner?

* What crazy idea could have driven prosecution witness Robert Chobert, out on probation after a conviction for firebombing a school and operating his cab without a licence as he had lost the latter on account of DUI not once, but twice, to park his cab behind a police car whose driver had just stopped another car?

* How is it that NOT ONE SINGLE person at the scene had seen the main prosecution witness, Cynthia White, where she claimed to have been standing, that is, at the South-Eastern corner of 13th and Locust? Not one!

* How is it that your friends, Joseph McGill, Mike Smerconish, and by now probably also filmmaker Tigre Hill, continue to peddle the claim that Billy Cook drove down 13th the wrong way (presumably to PROVOKE a traffic stop and ensuing altercation with Faulkner), even though the trial transcripts (through the testimony of Albert Magilton) and additional documents such as the police radio transcripts (of which you can have a copy anytime) show this claim to be entirely bogus?

Just five straight questions, Jon. All based on the proclaimed Bible of the &quot;Justice for Daniel Faulkner&quot; people.

As for the answers, I must admit I&#039;m not exactly holding my breath. I guess you&#039;ll again be talking about something else.

But the questions themselves cannot be sidestepped.

To repeat the central one: You proclaim to have been an officer yourself. Imagine a situation where three witnesses testify to a cold-blooded murder at point blank range, with all but one bullet missing and thus hitting the pavement.

And in the aftermath, the investigating cops found nothing in the pavement, and apparently didn&#039;t even look for it? Is that the way you undertook investigations at the time in Philadelphia?

A high-ranking Medical Examiner in one of the more important towns in Germany I recounted this to just shook his head and laughed, declaring it not worthy of further discussion.

What will you have to say about this?

Again, given my experience with you and like people, I&#039;m not exactly holding my breath.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not committed to this affidavit in any way. Therefore, I also don&#8217;t write that Abu-Jamal ran to his brother&#8217;s &#8220;screams.&#8221; All of this plays no role whatsoever in what I&#8217;ve written on the topic for the past three years (some of the stuff I wrote earlier and in German is indeed open to various kinds of criticism, but I guess you don&#8217;t even know these writings).</p>
<p>To repeat, I&#8217;m not committed to this, that, or any other affidavit.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m simply quoting from your alleged Bible, the trial transcripts.</p>
<p>And according to them, Abu-Jamal was parked on 13th Stree, not the parking lot, period.</p>
<p>And according to them, and to the testimony of prosecution witness Albert Magilton there, Abu-Jamal&#8217;s brother Billy Cook was driving on Locust before crossing the intersection 13th and Locust, not (and specifically, not the wrong way) on 13th.</p>
<p>And according to the trial transcripts, if one wants to believe the explicit statements of both Albert Magilton and key prosecution witness Michael Scanlan, there was no cab parked behind Daniel Faulkner&#8217;s police car.</p>
<p>So one other key prosecution witness, cab driver Robert Chobert, claiming he had parked behind a police car that had its dome lights on even though he was out on probation and was driving without a license, was not even there, all according to weighty testimony to be found in the trial transcripts.</p>
<p>And so on.</p>
<p>But as I said, to argue with you is useless, even if my arguments are strictly based on what you proclaim to be your Bible. You&#8217;ll continue to sidestep whatever I say.</p>
<p>I you want to argue with my or Hans&#8217;s points, you have to address what we say, not with what someone else, and be it Abu-Jamal himself, has said.</p>
<p>But you can&#8217;t respond, and so you choose to sidetrack the issues.</p>
<p>Five straight questions to you, John:</p>
<p>* If the three prosecution witnesses were right and Abu-Jamal fired at Faulkner several times at point blank range, meaning he also missed several times minus one &#8211; where are the bullets? How is it that the police that allegedly was told about this way everything allegedly unfolded did not even look for these bullets?</p>
<p>* How is it that prosecution witnesses Albert Magilton and Mike Scanlan explicitly denied that a taxi cab, or indeed any car, was standing behind Faulkner?</p>
<p>* What crazy idea could have driven prosecution witness Robert Chobert, out on probation after a conviction for firebombing a school and operating his cab without a licence as he had lost the latter on account of DUI not once, but twice, to park his cab behind a police car whose driver had just stopped another car?</p>
<p>* How is it that NOT ONE SINGLE person at the scene had seen the main prosecution witness, Cynthia White, where she claimed to have been standing, that is, at the South-Eastern corner of 13th and Locust? Not one!</p>
<p>* How is it that your friends, Joseph McGill, Mike Smerconish, and by now probably also filmmaker Tigre Hill, continue to peddle the claim that Billy Cook drove down 13th the wrong way (presumably to PROVOKE a traffic stop and ensuing altercation with Faulkner), even though the trial transcripts (through the testimony of Albert Magilton) and additional documents such as the police radio transcripts (of which you can have a copy anytime) show this claim to be entirely bogus?</p>
<p>Just five straight questions, Jon. All based on the proclaimed Bible of the &#8220;Justice for Daniel Faulkner&#8221; people.</p>
<p>As for the answers, I must admit I&#8217;m not exactly holding my breath. I guess you&#8217;ll again be talking about something else.</p>
<p>But the questions themselves cannot be sidestepped.</p>
<p>To repeat the central one: You proclaim to have been an officer yourself. Imagine a situation where three witnesses testify to a cold-blooded murder at point blank range, with all but one bullet missing and thus hitting the pavement.</p>
<p>And in the aftermath, the investigating cops found nothing in the pavement, and apparently didn&#8217;t even look for it? Is that the way you undertook investigations at the time in Philadelphia?</p>
<p>A high-ranking Medical Examiner in one of the more important towns in Germany I recounted this to just shook his head and laughed, declaring it not worthy of further discussion.</p>
<p>What will you have to say about this?</p>
<p>Again, given my experience with you and like people, I&#8217;m not exactly holding my breath.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander Baron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexander Baron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You people never give up, you simply keep reciting the same lies over and over and over again. There was NO withheld evidence in this case, athough there has been a systematic campaign of perjury and deception by Jamal&#039;s supporters. You keep going on and on about blacks being excluded from the jury, even if that were true, what does it prove? One of Jamal&#039;s new lawyers shows a video by a Philadelphia lawyer who says you should try to keep intelligent people off the jury because they are more likely to acquit. If that is the case, then the blacks were excluded because they were considered smarter than whites. Not your usual &quot;racist&quot; propaganda, that, is it?

As long ago as 1913 in the Deep South the jury in the Leo Frank case convicted a wealthy white businessman of murder primirily on the evidence of a low class Negro of poor character. What does that tell you about jury bias?

Grow up, give up, and campaign against a genuine miscariage of justice

http://www.youtube.com/user/SydBaron#play/all/uploads-all/2/od5simbD7Q8 

or for a genuine cause?

http://www.financialreform.info/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You people never give up, you simply keep reciting the same lies over and over and over again. There was NO withheld evidence in this case, athough there has been a systematic campaign of perjury and deception by Jamal&#8217;s supporters. You keep going on and on about blacks being excluded from the jury, even if that were true, what does it prove? One of Jamal&#8217;s new lawyers shows a video by a Philadelphia lawyer who says you should try to keep intelligent people off the jury because they are more likely to acquit. If that is the case, then the blacks were excluded because they were considered smarter than whites. Not your usual &#8220;racist&#8221; propaganda, that, is it?</p>
<p>As long ago as 1913 in the Deep South the jury in the Leo Frank case convicted a wealthy white businessman of murder primirily on the evidence of a low class Negro of poor character. What does that tell you about jury bias?</p>
<p>Grow up, give up, and campaign against a genuine miscariage of justice</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/SydBaron#play/all/uploads-all/2/od5simbD7Q8" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/user/SydBaron#play/all/uploads-all/2/od5simbD7Q8</a> </p>
<p>or for a genuine cause?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.financialreform.info/" rel="nofollow">http://www.financialreform.info/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bowman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bowman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh Mr. Schiffmann, you confuse me with others who want to debate the facts of this case with you. I do not. The case has been debated where the law requires,and frankly stated, the only place that matters.... that being a courtroom. You can type on this left-wing website as much as you wish. It won&#039;t help you or your friends. Nor will it help Jamal. The Court has spoken, and the sentence remains DEATH. Plain and simple. Execute the sentence; execute the cop-killer.

I say fry &#039;em.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Mr. Schiffmann, you confuse me with others who want to debate the facts of this case with you. I do not. The case has been debated where the law requires,and frankly stated, the only place that matters&#8230;. that being a courtroom. You can type on this left-wing website as much as you wish. It won&#8217;t help you or your friends. Nor will it help Jamal. The Court has spoken, and the sentence remains DEATH. Plain and simple. Execute the sentence; execute the cop-killer.</p>
<p>I say fry &#8216;em.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Pisano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Pisano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael, I see you talked the German Council to declare a resolution in support of the affirmed murderer mumia Abu Jamal. Now, Michale, I refer you to Jamals affidavit especially #11 &amp; 13 . Now according to YOUR drawing of the cab location on the 10 which you depict as being at that location on the 9th when Jamal murdered Officer Faulkner. Now let&#039;s go over this. You state Jamal was parked on 13th street north of Locust..right? Jamal NEVER stated that. You also state and according to your drawing, Jamal ran from the cab to his brothers &quot;screams&quot;. Now, if the Cab was parked where you show in the drawing, NORTH of Locust st on the WEST side of 13th, HOW in the hell could Jamal, sitting in the drivers seat, look in his rear view mirror and see EAST about 30/40 feet on Locust, the location of Faulkner and Cook? LOGIC..if you are sitting in a vehicle parked on the WEST side of a street and look in your rear view mirror, you CANNOT see any activity EAST of the location. Try it. Also Jamal states he looked in his rear view mirror and saw billy. He WOULD have been in the parking lot with the Cab facing WEST, and while in the drivers seat, looking in the mirror,he witnessed his brother in a fight with Officer Faulkner. Also Billy Cooks affidavit is hogwash. ANY Police Officer , after being struck by someone, would take that person into custody ASAP. Continue to blow smoke Michael...apparently you convinced your Munich Council with your twisted logic which has never been taken as serious FACTUAL evidence


jon pisano
Justice for Officer Faulkner crowd
Mumia Abu Jamal will die in prison with or without the help of the State and rightfully so,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael, I see you talked the German Council to declare a resolution in support of the affirmed murderer mumia Abu Jamal. Now, Michale, I refer you to Jamals affidavit especially #11 &amp; 13 . Now according to YOUR drawing of the cab location on the 10 which you depict as being at that location on the 9th when Jamal murdered Officer Faulkner. Now let&#8217;s go over this. You state Jamal was parked on 13th street north of Locust..right? Jamal NEVER stated that. You also state and according to your drawing, Jamal ran from the cab to his brothers &#8220;screams&#8221;. Now, if the Cab was parked where you show in the drawing, NORTH of Locust st on the WEST side of 13th, HOW in the hell could Jamal, sitting in the drivers seat, look in his rear view mirror and see EAST about 30/40 feet on Locust, the location of Faulkner and Cook? LOGIC..if you are sitting in a vehicle parked on the WEST side of a street and look in your rear view mirror, you CANNOT see any activity EAST of the location. Try it. Also Jamal states he looked in his rear view mirror and saw billy. He WOULD have been in the parking lot with the Cab facing WEST, and while in the drivers seat, looking in the mirror,he witnessed his brother in a fight with Officer Faulkner. Also Billy Cooks affidavit is hogwash. ANY Police Officer , after being struck by someone, would take that person into custody ASAP. Continue to blow smoke Michael&#8230;apparently you convinced your Munich Council with your twisted logic which has never been taken as serious FACTUAL evidence</p>
<p>jon pisano<br />
Justice for Officer Faulkner crowd<br />
Mumia Abu Jamal will die in prison with or without the help of the State and rightfully so,</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Schiffmann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Schiffmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Bowman, Mr. Pisano,

isn&#039;t it funny how all the pseudo-arguments on your part stop once your alleged Bible, the trial transcripts, are actually quoted?

Actually, you have no clue of what&#039;s in them. They demonstrate Abu-Jamal&#039;s cab to NOT have been in the parking lot. They demonstrate Mumia&#039;s brother Billy Cook to NOT have driven on 13th Street the wrong way. They demonstrate a lot more claims now being made by the Fry Mumia mob to be simply wrong.

Response, whenever this is pointed out? Nothing.

More importantly, you also can&#039;t respond to the fact that the bullet that three prosecution witnesses claimed to have seen being fired at Faulkner as he lay on the sidewalk were never found.

It very much seems that the cops didn&#039;t even look for them, because they knew they couldn&#039;t be there, since their witnesses had made it all up.

But as I already said, it&#039;s meaningless to argue with the Pisanos and the Bowmans. Judging from the hate speech they are producing, they have killed their hearts long ago, and judging from their &quot;arguments,&quot; their mind went along.

All the same, they won&#039;t see their hope to see Mumia executed realized.

He, and other unjustly imprisoned victims of the judicial machinery such as Leonard Peltier, will finally be free, thanks to the dedicated work of people all around the world who bank on human sympathy and understanding, not repellent slogans such as &quot;Fry Em.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Bowman, Mr. Pisano,</p>
<p>isn&#8217;t it funny how all the pseudo-arguments on your part stop once your alleged Bible, the trial transcripts, are actually quoted?</p>
<p>Actually, you have no clue of what&#8217;s in them. They demonstrate Abu-Jamal&#8217;s cab to NOT have been in the parking lot. They demonstrate Mumia&#8217;s brother Billy Cook to NOT have driven on 13th Street the wrong way. They demonstrate a lot more claims now being made by the Fry Mumia mob to be simply wrong.</p>
<p>Response, whenever this is pointed out? Nothing.</p>
<p>More importantly, you also can&#8217;t respond to the fact that the bullet that three prosecution witnesses claimed to have seen being fired at Faulkner as he lay on the sidewalk were never found.</p>
<p>It very much seems that the cops didn&#8217;t even look for them, because they knew they couldn&#8217;t be there, since their witnesses had made it all up.</p>
<p>But as I already said, it&#8217;s meaningless to argue with the Pisanos and the Bowmans. Judging from the hate speech they are producing, they have killed their hearts long ago, and judging from their &#8220;arguments,&#8221; their mind went along.</p>
<p>All the same, they won&#8217;t see their hope to see Mumia executed realized.</p>
<p>He, and other unjustly imprisoned victims of the judicial machinery such as Leonard Peltier, will finally be free, thanks to the dedicated work of people all around the world who bank on human sympathy and understanding, not repellent slogans such as &#8220;Fry Em.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Bowman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bowman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can count me in on the Fry Mumia crowd. Mr. Schiffmann, you&#039;ve done a fine job defending this convicted cop-killer. Keep up the good work. Hopefully your fine work will aid in carrying out the original sentence. DEATH. Mr. Bennett, why not try using a source other than all of the left-wing, anti-white publications or websites? I&#039;ll tell you why, you CAN&#039;T. Other than citing sources from Germany or France, or the really left leaning AI, you don&#039;t have any.

Fry Em!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can count me in on the Fry Mumia crowd. Mr. Schiffmann, you&#8217;ve done a fine job defending this convicted cop-killer. Keep up the good work. Hopefully your fine work will aid in carrying out the original sentence. DEATH. Mr. Bennett, why not try using a source other than all of the left-wing, anti-white publications or websites? I&#8217;ll tell you why, you CAN&#8217;T. Other than citing sources from Germany or France, or the really left leaning AI, you don&#8217;t have any.</p>
<p>Fry Em!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Schiffmann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Schiffmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 00:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My kudos, Hans, and my condolences, for your patience in trying to rationally deal with the irrational.

Pisano (who DOES send out right-wing and racist stuff by e-mail; I can send you samples) really is a piece of work.

Here is the excerpt from the trial transcripts that he distorts &amp; mangles:

Q. When did you obtain a search and seizure warrant?
A. That warrant was obtained early in the morning, I believe, of --- it was obtained during my last out tour the next night. I didn&#039;t serve it, until
Page 72.
Direct-Detective Thomas
after daylight on the l0th, I believe.
Q. And the search and seizure warrant subject matter was the taxicab?
A. Yes.
Q. The taxicab was parked where? Where was it located initially?
A. It was located on 13th, 13th Street on the west side of the street just north of Locust.
Q. Who brought to your attention the location of the cab?
MR. MCGILL: Objection.
THE COURT: I will sustain the objection.
BY MR. JACKSON:
Q. You prepared an affidavit of probable cause for the search and seizure warrant?
A. Yes, I did.
Q. Based on information you received?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Based on information that you received, when was the cab located at the location you just stated?
MR. MCGILL: Again objection.
THE COURT: I have to sustain the 
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Direct-Detective Thomas
objection.
BY MR. JACKSON:
Q. Where did you first come in contact with the taxicab?
A. 13th and Locust.
Q. You physically saw it there?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. And at the time that you saw it was it in police custody? When I say police custody, were the police there?
A. At the time I saw the cab the owner of the cab was there and he had been talking with a police officer.
Q. Before you arrived?
A. That is correct.

Where was the cab located INITIALLY, the cop is asked. The answer is crystal clear. It is corroborated by the cab&#039;s owner, Frank Allen, in his statement to the police on December 9, NOT 10, 1981.

Basis: a close reading of the trial transcripts &amp; the court documents, something which the Fry Mumia mob guys apparently are organically unable to do.

Not only here, the crime scene diagram on the Justice for Faulkner website is just a bunch of bull.

The trial transcripts and other documents also show that Billy Cook did NOT approach the scene by taking 13th the wrong way. He was traveling on Locust. Ask prosecution witness Albert Magilton!

But truth is secondary for the mob. Once they&#039;ve touted some version of the events, no amount of counterevidence will move them to retreat from this even a tiny little bit.

Small wonder; people who have so many reasons to doubt the basic tenets of their professed belief can&#039;t give away even a small point, out of fear that once you start this, everything will be lost.

Pisano is a lyer and a fraud who hides behind court decisions in order to avoid serious argument. But the court decisions are what is at issue! You can&#039;t justify them by saying that they are... COURT DECISIONS!

It took hundreds of church institutions hundreds of years to admit that the church was wrong in its argument with Galilei, same thing with defendants in the U.S. and elsewhere who spent countless years in the dungeon, justified by one court after another, until the authorities were finally forced to see the light.

As in the case of Geronimo Pratt, who spent almost as many years in jail as Mumia, for a murder he also didn&#039;t commit. Or Nick Yarris, the Philadelphian who was convicted the same day as Mumia and was acquitted as definitely innocent after more than 22 years in hell.

Yes indeed, the courts had spoken - until the day they, very fortunately, spoke otherwise.

This is not written for the likes of Joe Pisano, or whatever his real name is. His heart has long ago into that darkness Joseph Conrad wrote about, turning his, as we now know, limited intellectual abilities into a repetitive machine of hatred.

Let&#039;s forget about him and move on to engage in discussion with people who deserve it and who will pay bacl our efforts by giving us their own insights, drawn from genuinely thinking about the matters at hand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My kudos, Hans, and my condolences, for your patience in trying to rationally deal with the irrational.</p>
<p>Pisano (who DOES send out right-wing and racist stuff by e-mail; I can send you samples) really is a piece of work.</p>
<p>Here is the excerpt from the trial transcripts that he distorts &amp; mangles:</p>
<p>Q. When did you obtain a search and seizure warrant?<br />
A. That warrant was obtained early in the morning, I believe, of &#8212; it was obtained during my last out tour the next night. I didn&#8217;t serve it, until<br />
Page 72.<br />
Direct-Detective Thomas<br />
after daylight on the l0th, I believe.<br />
Q. And the search and seizure warrant subject matter was the taxicab?<br />
A. Yes.<br />
Q. The taxicab was parked where? Where was it located initially?<br />
A. It was located on 13th, 13th Street on the west side of the street just north of Locust.<br />
Q. Who brought to your attention the location of the cab?<br />
MR. MCGILL: Objection.<br />
THE COURT: I will sustain the objection.<br />
BY MR. JACKSON:<br />
Q. You prepared an affidavit of probable cause for the search and seizure warrant?<br />
A. Yes, I did.<br />
Q. Based on information you received?<br />
A. Yes, sir.<br />
Q. Based on information that you received, when was the cab located at the location you just stated?<br />
MR. MCGILL: Again objection.<br />
THE COURT: I have to sustain the<br />
Page 73.<br />
Direct-Detective Thomas<br />
objection.<br />
BY MR. JACKSON:<br />
Q. Where did you first come in contact with the taxicab?<br />
A. 13th and Locust.<br />
Q. You physically saw it there?<br />
A. Yes, sir.<br />
Q. And at the time that you saw it was it in police custody? When I say police custody, were the police there?<br />
A. At the time I saw the cab the owner of the cab was there and he had been talking with a police officer.<br />
Q. Before you arrived?<br />
A. That is correct.</p>
<p>Where was the cab located INITIALLY, the cop is asked. The answer is crystal clear. It is corroborated by the cab&#8217;s owner, Frank Allen, in his statement to the police on December 9, NOT 10, 1981.</p>
<p>Basis: a close reading of the trial transcripts &amp; the court documents, something which the Fry Mumia mob guys apparently are organically unable to do.</p>
<p>Not only here, the crime scene diagram on the Justice for Faulkner website is just a bunch of bull.</p>
<p>The trial transcripts and other documents also show that Billy Cook did NOT approach the scene by taking 13th the wrong way. He was traveling on Locust. Ask prosecution witness Albert Magilton!</p>
<p>But truth is secondary for the mob. Once they&#8217;ve touted some version of the events, no amount of counterevidence will move them to retreat from this even a tiny little bit.</p>
<p>Small wonder; people who have so many reasons to doubt the basic tenets of their professed belief can&#8217;t give away even a small point, out of fear that once you start this, everything will be lost.</p>
<p>Pisano is a lyer and a fraud who hides behind court decisions in order to avoid serious argument. But the court decisions are what is at issue! You can&#8217;t justify them by saying that they are&#8230; COURT DECISIONS!</p>
<p>It took hundreds of church institutions hundreds of years to admit that the church was wrong in its argument with Galilei, same thing with defendants in the U.S. and elsewhere who spent countless years in the dungeon, justified by one court after another, until the authorities were finally forced to see the light.</p>
<p>As in the case of Geronimo Pratt, who spent almost as many years in jail as Mumia, for a murder he also didn&#8217;t commit. Or Nick Yarris, the Philadelphian who was convicted the same day as Mumia and was acquitted as definitely innocent after more than 22 years in hell.</p>
<p>Yes indeed, the courts had spoken &#8211; until the day they, very fortunately, spoke otherwise.</p>
<p>This is not written for the likes of Joe Pisano, or whatever his real name is. His heart has long ago into that darkness Joseph Conrad wrote about, turning his, as we now know, limited intellectual abilities into a repetitive machine of hatred.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s forget about him and move on to engage in discussion with people who deserve it and who will pay bacl our efforts by giving us their own insights, drawn from genuinely thinking about the matters at hand.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander Baron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexander Baron</dc:creator>
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		<description>As blacks in general favour the death penalty more than middle class liberal white morons - the strking of blacks from the jury was actually a bias in favour of the defence. But they still returned a death penalty. What does that tell you?</description>
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